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- Wally Keeler
- Peoples Republic of Poetry
- Published in the following literary/art journals: PRISM International, pseudonym: 422-902-510; IMPULSE, pseudonym: Peoples Republic of Poetry; WAVES, pseudonym: 422-902-510; The FIDDLEHEAD, pseudonym: 422-902-510; DESCANT, pseudonym: 422-902-510; OPEN LETTER, pseudonym: Peoples Republic of Poetry; RAMPIKE, pseudonym: Peoples Republic of Poetry; OTHER VOICES, pseudonym: 422-902-510; WEST COAST REVIEW, pseudonym: 422-902-510; MACLEANS, pseudonym: Peoples Republic of Poetry; CAROUSEL & MISUNDERSTANDINGS as Wally Keeler; WALKING ON THE GREENHOUSE ROOF, published by Delta Canada, Montreal, 1969; 1ST INTERIM REPORT OF THE COMMISSION ON THE CAUSES AND MANIFESTATIONS OF DIVERGENT THINK PROCEDURE CONCERING THE FIRST TEN YEARS OF THE HISTORY OF THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF POETRY, Samizdata Publications, Toronto, 1981
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how do we know that spilled grease caused those marks?
did you actually see the grease being dropped on to the grass?
Because I visit the park once or twice every day.
Because I photographed the park for Ribfest and noted what they did, which includes the first rectangle in each photograph.
Because I photographed the park when the big house was there early in the morning, because I was there later in the afternoon when the food concessionaires were packing up, because I was there to take the photos when they left.
I have been taking photos every day since.
It is careless. More care would have been taken with their own backyards, but not if it is the Crown Jewel of Cobourg.
If you want to suggest that I am a liar, then the ball is in your court to prove otherwise. I back up my contention with photographic evidence. You have nothing more than a groundless accusation.
I'm not giving anyone a black eye. It is others (locals) who are giving Victoria Park a black eye. People need to clean up their act -- that simple.
All I asked was did you see them spill grease on the ground and whether grease caused those marks.
I never accused you of being a liar. Just asked a couple of simple questions.
I was there as it was being set up. I saw that the lawn was lush and unblemished except for one square of bare ground that was caused by one of the vendors to Ribfest.
I was there taking pictures when it was set up. I returned later when it was drawing to a close. I saw two vendors providing food service. When they left I walked over to the site, to the very location where one of the vendors had set up. I then photographed the damage done to the ground.
If you go the very bottom of the photos on this blog, you will see it quite fresh. I touched it. It was greasy.
Did my eye see a pan full of grease being accidently knocked over and a greasy substance spill from it? No. Did I stay there throughout the hours the event was there? No. Yes, it could have been aliens that created those crop circles.
The sad fact reains that it was locals that have caused more damage to the grounds of Victoria Park than an entire summer of visitors.
No problem, I am sure it was not aliens. Nor would I assume that it was. I just wanted to know if you had actually seen the deed being done to the grass. You answered by question about actually seeing who did what. You also answered my question about whether it was grease or not.
I guess one could assume it was done by the vendors. Even though there is absolutely no proof to back up that claim.
What kind of a greaseball joke is that on the part of Mr. anonymous detective? Of course it's grease, unless they cook their ribs with acid! Why don't you do something about it Dick ?
This is our heritage park excessively damaged after the rib fest.
Tell us your address, I will sample grease on your lawn, Mr. private eye, so Mr. Keeler could take pictures of your lawn and we will all estimate the damage. I will send you the billing, for Mr. Keeler's time. OK? How would you like your ribs, rare or well done ?
We are in the court of public opinion, not a court of law. There is sufficient circumstantial evidence to indicate it was a careless vendor. There is no accusation of a crime being made, just carelessness, to the detriment of the grounds of Victoria Park.
I would hardly have cared much about what happens to the grounds of Victoria Park -- sloppiness happens. I was moved by the outpouring of bigotry towards the 'visitors' in the media. The smug self-righteousness of many Cobourgers compelled me to document the hypocrisy of us 'locals'.
Of course, the intention of the author of the blog is sincere. I dislike people's with a poor quality of questions and questions and questions, and questions and questions and questions, and questions and questions and questions and questions ...............
Thank you for your response Mr. Keeler. Your right it is circumstantial evidence. No this is not a court of law, it is just your opinion. To the other post regarding my "questions", I am entitled to question, in fact everyone should question everything. To accept something as an absolute is wrong.
I have one more question, in a couple of the pictures, the ground is stained a light purple, was that photoshopped in? Or was that the actual colour? If it is neither, I will have to adjust my screen colour.
I am not a photographer. I'm an amateur. My cheap camera takes snapshots. Not photoshopped. My memory does not recall if the tint of the actual substance was dark purplish or not. I point the camera and shoot.
In my youth, I was a court reporter for several years. Circumstantial evidence can convict - accumulative evidence can be sufficient to convict unless a compelling arguement can address it.
The spill on the lawn was not there when a vendor set up, but it was there when the vendor left. If the vendor asserts that they were there and saw some teenager come with a can of greasy substance and pour it on the ground, then that can prevail. However, the preponderance of circumstantial evidence points to the carelessness of a vendor serving Habitat for Humanity. Can you provide a reasonable alternative the explain the spillage?
So it is not just an 'opinion' that can disess as such. It is more than an opinion. It is a reasonable conclusion baed on the preponderance of facts.
I answered your questions, so here is one for you: why are you anonymous?
We are anonymous because we like it like that and you should be the same. THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY. What is the difference between a nick name or anon ?
"Thank you for your response Mr. Keeler. Your right it is circumstantial evidence. No this is not a court of law, it is just your opinion."
NO THIS IS MY OPINION, STOP PLAYING JUDGE AND LAWYER, NOBODY HERE IS ONE. I was laughing at the lack of judgement in the questionning of the first anon. People lack of persperctive in this Town. If you don't like my opinion, too bad, vote for the greaseballs then.
A court reporter is a court reporter. This is now a tribunal. Let the people express themselves and go to bed. The kind of official reporting we have in this county is outrageous. What do you learn in University ?
Why are so so XXX Wally? Why is your poetry so XX Wally ? Why do you ask so many XX questions Wally ? Why XX Wally?
Why do you have to put your lovely pictures on all your comments? HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
What kind of a greaseball joke is that on the part of Mr. anonymous detective? Of course it's grease, unless they cook their ribs with acid! Why don't you do something about it Dick ?
This is our heritage park excessively damaged after the rib fest.
Tell us your address, I will sample grease on your lawn, Mr. private eye, so Mr. Keeler could take pictures of your lawn and we will all estimate the damage. I will send you the billing, for Mr. Keeler's time. OK? How would you like your ribs, rare or well done ?
September 30, 2010 12:14 PM
Anonymous said...
Of course, the intention of the author of the blog is sincere. I dislike people's with a poor quality of questions and questions and questions, and questions and questions and questions, and questions and questions and questions and questions ...............
September 30, 2010 12:39 PM
Why indeed. I see its ok to be "Anonymous", when you agree with you, however, disagree and it's somewhat different.
I would ask you, you have said that you were there when they were setting up. Why no pics of the actual setup? So we can see beyond a shadow of a doubt that the vendor was actually set up at the spot in question. It would ease my doubts some what.
"I would ask you, you have said that you were there when they were setting up. Why no pics of the actual setup? So we can see beyond a shadow of a doubt that the vendor was actually set up at the spot in question. It would ease my doubts some what."
The police arrive at the scene of a car in the ditch. The driver is charged with careless driving. No one was there to witness the car going into the ditch. So how could it be careless driving?
If the driver of the car said a bee came into the window of the car and stung him on the side of the head, he jerk-responded and that is how the car went off the road. Acquitted. That was a case I covered.
Other cases of careless driving were dealt with the same way. The charge of careless driving prevailed unil and unless an explanation was provided that countered the "careless". The fact that a car was in the ditch is sufficient to charge careless driving and convict if a viable explanation is not provided.
Until someone has a viable explanation of how the grease got there, then the charge of carelessness stands.
However, your stringent requirements mean that I will keep the park on video surveillance, and I will be there in the future to record every possible detail to your uber satisfaction.
There are many anonymous here. I should think we do not doubt the grease was spilled on the lawn. Eye or no eye withness. Please let's not make this site ridiculous and end it there!
I will say this to you Mr. Keeler, I did not do the other posts, I cut and pasted the one, the others I have no idea who they are. They are not my comments. Thank you for your response. Forsaken
I have chosen to respond only to those I considered coherent and/or intelligent.
In any event, the overall theme is that locals disgrace Victoria Park as much as visitors, if not more so. Locals certainly bear the greater responsibility.
Today I saw that a dozer was brought in to VP to slice off the accumulating wood chips around the bandshell. The brick paths around the structure are narrower than the wheel base of most vehicles, thereby causing vehicle wheels to travel on grass, grind it, mulch it, thereby causing wood chips to be laid down. At this time I don't know if new sod is to be laid, or the paths to be widened. I'd prefer widening because it addresses the unassailable fact that vehicles need to be there from time to time.
During Ribfest too many vehicles, mostly trucks, were using the VP as a parking lot.
I have no idea who Forsaken is, nor do I know which anonymous is which. They are all the same to me. I value them less because there is a nobody behind them. I own my words, and because of that, I am both fearless and a fool.
But I guarantee you, that my life as lived has been a hell of a lot more interesting than nobodies.
My choice of "names" is just that my choice. It should not detract from my questions. I have seen a lot of Anonymous posts here on this blog; I have also seen a number of people using "Forsaken" type names as well.
The internet has spawned a bevy of these types of blogs many that never see the light of day, many that are just a load of tripe. Some, that ask "hard pointy" questions, and as a result, are asked "hard pointy" questions in response.
A number of them, (most) seldom respond, or try to disparage the author of these questions.
I find it amusing, that people can claim to speak for the silent majority, but, when it comes right down to it have little to no support in the community. Is this the case here? I do not know.
Nor do I really care.
I would ask the author of this blog, you Mr. Keeler; what is a park for?
My answer to that question would be, exactly what it is being used for.
That is just my opinion, and from what I can determine, it is the opinion of much of the population of this town.
Forsaken has once again forsaken their own opinion. I own mine. I have the courage to stand for my opinions and perceptions. I have the integrity of transparency, whereas Forsaken acts like a backroom boob, hides behind a burqa, afraid to reveal themselves to the light of day. That is why I value Forsaken's perception less than those who stand up for what they say.
Forsaken does it for deniability purposes. No no I didn't say that. Wasn't me. Did you eyewitness the grease being spilled. Did you eyewitness me making that comment on your blog. Creates doubt of integrity.
Forsaken asserts "I would ask the author of this blog, you Mr. Keeler; what is a park for?"
That is very similar to the question I would ask of Cobourg. Does Cobourg want Victoria Park to be used as a temporary shopping mall? Does Cobourg not care about the damage to the grounds of Victoria Park? Is there a limit to the burden we can ask Victoria Park to bear? Should Ribfest use Victoria Park regardless of the damage it does to the grounds?
Forsaken answers, "My answer to that question would be, exactly what it is being used for."
Exactly, the answer of one of the two Forsaken's on this thread.
Forsaken says, "That is just my opinion, and from what I can determine, it is the opinion of much of the population of this town."
Sure Forsaken 1 or 2. Anyone can make a claim such as that. Forsaken hasn't a single clue what "much of the poulation" says about this issue. Forsaken 1 or 2 asked me hard questions, so the unknown person shoukld be able to answer the hard question of how they know what "much of the population" thinks on any given issue.
So the question is bounced back to no one in particular just anyone in general.
Btw, I am free to disparage any anonymous name whatsoever because they are generic, no one inparticular.
Yes Mr. Keeler you will disparage anyone that disagrees with you. It does not matter who it is, or what they choose to be called. You deflect answering questions, I read in another blog of yours where someone else, called Anonymous, asked you some questions.
Well Mr. Keeler I went down to Victoria Park yesterday, I found the spots you were complaining about. I also noted the grass is growing back. You alluded to the damage to one spot that was done by Ribfest. Well, I looked at that spot, and in relation to the fence line, the spot was north of the fence. This means outside of the Ribfest foot print.
I don't see you complaining about the damage being done to the grounds by all those children, and adults, on a day to day basis. The ground was, is, and remains devoid of grass around the picnic tables. This was not done by Ribfest, or the Habitat vendors, this was done by the hundreds of children that frequent the park during the summer months.
You mentioned in one of your blogs about the wood chips, along the walk way in front of the band shell, this is used to soak up the water that runs down from the Queen Street area. The town puts that down. Is the town going to widen the path way in front of the band shell? Who knows? It would come with some cost. People would then complain about the different coloured stone in the pathway.
The park is for everyone’s use, for a myriad of events.
The pier is unsafe. It does not have the basic requirements to hold an event of the size of ribfest or any event of similar size. I know it is smaller with no room to expand; I took a gps, mapped the usable portion, uploaded it to mapping software and calculated the exact area. This area would have to shrink if the weather was less than desirable; I do not believe that waves crashing up on to the deck of the pier would be something people would want to experience while eating ribs.
I then did the same to Victoria Park, using the fence lines, uploaded the waypoints to mapping software, it is approximately 20 percent larger, with far more room to expand if needed. Not to mention, that in the past years, the site was too small.
The park has the needed amenities, i.e. water power. The pier does not.
Do I believe moving the actual Ribbers on to Queen Street would make a difference? Other than enlarging the foot print of the actual event, no. That is just my opinion. Most of the damage done in this past year was directly tied to the amount of rain that the area has experienced this year. Yes it is an option, one that possibly could make a difference.
You own your words Mr. Keeler, the system we have in place allows me to be who I want to be, at any given moment. I vote anonymously, I can stand in a crowd at a protest and be anonymous. It is part of OUR system. I believe that our charter of rights allows us this. I am only using my right as a Canadian.
You may believe many things about that statement, I am sure you will deflect and twist it up as you see fit.
Ultimately, I believe that there are far more important things than a little grass being trampled.
I do believe it was said by someone else, I will repeat it for you, “Grass grows back”.
Anonymity permits people to bullshit to their hearts content. Forsaken 1 & 2 or whatever the nobody chooses to call themselves, is bullshitting. I answered the questions and more. Forsaken refuses to answer a single question I put.
The gps bullshit is the biggest pile of all.
Yes, grass grows back. However, it grew back weeks later. Also the grounds damage from a Habitat for Humanity remains in place. I take a photo of it daily, yesterday included, and it is there.
Obviously the anonymous nonbody who is too scairdycat to own their opinion, could not care less about the grounds of Victoria Park. I do.
Moving Ribfest was ONE suggestion. I also made the terrible terrible suggestion that Ribfest locate the big cooking rigs on the asphalt surface on Queen Street, or if that is just a tad too inconvenient, locate them along McGill Street.
The grounds were ripped up by a yahoo driving a small CAT forklift. No one cared less how that vehilce was driven. My presentation also included a request that a tarpaulin or pltform or some absorbent material be placed under the cooking rigs to prevent the oil/grease reaching the grounds. But perhaps that is just too much to think about by the anonymous bullshitter.
Donegan Park has all the amenities. It would not crowd out people who want to use Victoria Park. Since Ribfest does not respect the 'crown jewel of Cobourg' as one well-known Rotarian asserted, it would be better positioned in Donegan Park. It would relieve the burden to Victoria Park.
To claim something outside the perimeter wasn't caused by Ribfest is disengenuous. Outside the fence the remainder of the lawn bordered by Church, Queen, MaGill and the Bandshell was packed solid with parked trucks. That raises another question about how vehicles use the park.
Take a look at this posting
http://cobourgtown.blogspot.com/2010/08/abuse-of-victoria-park-by-ribfest.html
and tell me how necessary it was to drive those vehicles onto the lawns. Talk about laziness.
The east pier remains viable. It has challenges, of course. But then again there are those who are too lazy or are not up to the challenge. I suspect that is where you fit in Mr Pseudo.
Anonymity permits people to bullshit to their hearts content. Forsaken 1 & 2 or whatever the nobody chooses to call themselves, is bullshitting. I answered the questions and more. Forsaken refuses to answer a single question I put.
The gps bullshit is the biggest pile of all.
Yes, grass grows back. However, it grew back weeks later. Also the grounds damage from a Habitat for Humanity remains in place. I take a photo of it daily, yesterday included, and it is there.
Obviously the anonymous nonbody who is too scairdycat to own their opinion, could not care less about the grounds of Victoria Park. I do.
Moving Ribfest was ONE suggestion. I also made the terrible terrible suggestion that Ribfest locate the big cooking rigs on the asphalt surface on Queen Street, or if that is just a tad too inconvenient, locate them along McGill Street.
The grounds were ripped up by a yahoo driving a small CAT forklift. No one cared less how that vehilce was driven. My presentation also included a request that a tarpaulin or pltform or some absorbent material be placed under the cooking rigs to prevent the oil/grease reaching the grounds. But perhaps that is just too much to think about by the anonymous bullshitter.
Donegan Park has all the amenities. It would not crowd out people who want to use Victoria Park. Since Ribfest does not respect the 'crown jewel of Cobourg' as one well-known Rotarian asserted, it would be better positioned in Donegan Park. It would relieve the burden to Victoria Park.
To claim something outside the perimeter wasn't caused by Ribfest is disengenuous. Outside the fence the remainder of the lawn bordered by Church, Queen, MaGill and the Bandshell was packed solid with parked trucks. That raises another question about how vehicles use the park.
Take a look at this posting
http://cobourgtown.blogspot.com/2010/08/abuse-of-victoria-park-by-ribfest.html
and tell me how necessary it was to drive those vehicles onto the lawns. Talk about laziness.
The east pier remains viable. It has challenges, of course. But then again there are those who are too lazy or are not up to the challenge. I suspect that is where you fit in Mr Pseudo.
Well Mr. Keeler, I see in the face of calm discussion you have degenerated into the classic name calling that I have heard you are famous for.
GPS bullshiet, lol, yes sir, I did do that very thing. Try it out, if you are half as intelligent as you claim, and you understand mapping software, you will find that it does exactly as I claim. I somehow doubt you will do anything about it. You are too wrapped up in your own little world.
The issues with the pier are real issues. Here is a little question for you, who will pay for all these needed upgrades?
No amount of deflecting from the simple truth will change the fact there is no power and no water. You yourself posted pictures of the children sitting on the edge of the pier with large waves washing over them. Just how much fun would that be while eating ribs?
I would suggest to you Mr. Keeler, as it is YOUR idea, so answer the "challenges" that are faced to hold the event on the pier.
The biggest one, who pays for all the extras that would be required?
Yes Mr. Keeler, there are issues with the size of the pier. Whether you wish to believe it or not. For someone who has claimed to be so much more intelligent than the Anonymous posters here, it seems to me that you, the "intelligent one" are reduced to name calling.
Your only question to me thus far, has been who I am. That sir is obvious, your nemesis.
Try for once, and instead of trying for headlines and the spotlight to be proactive prior to the fact. Anyone can sit and rant after the fact. Did you actually approach Northumberland Ribfest with your ideas? No, I think not.
You would rather sit on your perceived high horse and shout down edicts from Mount Poetry.
Sad to say, but you are typical example of that type of person.
I doubt this will see the light of day in your blog, too many truths.
Here are some for you, yes some grass was trampled, and yes some turf was torn up. YES it has all grown back.
Try the Garmin Etrex gps with Garmin Map source software, the topographical version. It has the ability to calculate area within a given foot print. Try it out. It works and works well. Failing that, get a tape measure, do the calculations.
I said to you, quite clearly that moving the Ribbers on to Queen Street really would not make a difference in my opinion.
According to your own blog, Donnegan Park has issues of people living too close by; this is by YOUR estimation. With which I concur. So does the ground just north of the new community centre. Or do they not count? Or what about the businesses that work around the clock directly across the street from the new community centre. Not to mention the issues with power and water at both locations. Again, who gets to pay for the extras? YOU?
You enjoy yourself Mr. Keeler, get back on your busted ass soapbox and find something else to yell NO about. Get your 5 minutes of fame that you so obviously crave. Or better yet, why not at the next civic election, put your name forward? Hell if you get elected, you might actually get some creditability.
Self Righteous Forsaken whines “Yes Mr. Keeler you will disparage anyone that disagrees with you. It does not matter who it is, or what they choose to be called. You deflect answering questions, I read in another blog of yours where someone else, called Anonymous, asked you some questions.”
Yes, people ask questions. You deflect answering my questions. You suggested I was racist and I asked you to prove it, several times, yet you refused to provide any proof whatsoever. You are a hypocrite.
Self-righteous whines, I went down to Victoria Park yesterday, I found the spots you were complaining about. I also noted the grass is growing back.”
I went down there this morning, The grass is hardly grown back at all. It has been 19 days and counting. I heard from many Cobourgers whining about visitors and asserting that they should leave the park in the condition they found it. This rule should also apply to the damage done to the grounds by locals. If I understand the anonymous nobody that calls themselves Forsaken this moment, they could care less about the grounds of the park. Very cavalier attitude on Forsaken’s part.
Forsaken or Anyone In General said, “You alluded to the damage to one spot that was done by Ribfest. Well, I looked at that spot, and in relation to the fence line, the spot was north of the fence. This means outside of the Ribfest foot print.”
That is a bullshit lie. The fence was parallel to the sidewalk along Queen Street. This is a photo I took of the fence on the north side of Ribfest. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xRNkKmg53L0/TGxD5bSJwZI/AAAAAAAACgo/nfcoRAM8QfY/s1600/Victoria+Park+fenced.jpg The damage portion is well within this fence. It was caused by one of the vendors at that location.
Forsaken The Coward wrote: “I don't see you complaining about the damage being done to the grounds by all those children, and adults, on a day to day basis. The ground was, is, and remains devoid of grass around the picnic tables. This was not done by Ribfest, or the Habitat vendors, this was done by the hundreds of children that frequent the park during the summer months.”
Let’s clarify things here. The park decided that area to be a designated picnic area. The tables are locked in one place. It invites concentrated use. The grounds there are worn through to dirt. While Ribfest did not cause this 100 percent, they are guilty of mitigating it. The area was within the Ribfest footprint. The tables had been moved and the grounds torn up by vehicles.
Forsaken the Dimwit writes: “You mentioned in one of your blogs about the wood chips, along the walk way in front of the band shell, this is used to soak up the water that runs down from the Queen Street area.”
This is bullshit. The lawn is not on a slope to the Bandshell. Between Queen Street and the bandshell, there are several depresses in the lawn where water would accumulate.
Forsookie wrote: “Do I believe moving the actual Ribbers on to Queen Street would make a difference? Other than enlarging the foot print of the actual event, no. That is just my opinion. Most of the damage done in this past year was directly tied to the amount of rain that the area has experienced this year.”
My suggestion not yours, nor Ribfest. Last year I photographed the same damage done to the grounds of the park by the cooking rigs. Spilled grease/cooking oil. The photos of that damage is on this blog – look at last year. The organizers of Ribfest couldn’t care less about that damage. How do I know? Because they didn’t make a single change to prevent it happening again this year.
Yes, it had rained. The rain has no bearing on the grease/oil, bottle caps, plastic ties, etc that were left on the ground this year. The rain had no bearing on the grease and oil smears across the paths. The rain had no bearing on the canisters that had littered the park for two days after the event ended. However, the rain softened the ground. This is a fact known to the organizers. If they cared about the grounds of the park, they would have taken this into consideration when they sent in the yahoo driving the forklift willy-nilly. That is the responsibility of the Ribfest organizers. It left the grounds ripped up in several locations. It took days for any of it to heal. It should not have happened in the first place.
After I had made my presentation to town council, a gentleman from Pickering or Burlington attended and told me that the cooking rigs are placed onto asphalt in his community. It would have good if the Ribfest organizers had enough brains to Have done the same, but they have the same cavalier belligerence that you exhibit.
Forsaking declared, “You own your words Mr. Keeler, the system we have in place allows me to be who I want to be, at any given moment. I vote anonymously, I can stand in a crowd at a protest and be anonymous. It is part of OUR system. I believe that our charter of rights allows us this. I am only using my right as a Canadian.
You have no right to post as you wish on my blog. You are publishing here only at my privilege. That is OUR system. Yes you can be anonymous. I never said you could not. I simply asked why you feel so scared to own your words. You Can deflect and twist it around however you want, but you have no dispute to the fact that I take ownership of my words – YOU DO NOT. My integrity requires transparency – YOUR IS OPAQUE. I have the courage to stand up, whereas YOU DO NOT. Very simple – you are a spineless coward.
Forsaken said “Ultimately, I believe that there are far more important things than a little grass being trampled. I do believe it was said by someone else, I will repeat it for you, “Grass grows back”.
Yes, world hunger and world peace are far more important. Your assertion that a “little grass” was trampled indicates the arrogance and cavalier attitude you have towards the crown jewel of Cobourg. No wonder you remain anonymous. Unfortunately, that same cavalier arrogance belongs to other Ribfest organizers.
All I have done is document the damage to the grounds, because I care about the park, because I am a daily user of the park, because I respect the park as a crown jewel, because I did not just whine and gripe about it, but offered several suggestions to alleviate the problem, only one was the east pier.
For your information, I had never caused any damage to the grounds of Victoria Park. You have zero cause to be angry or arrogant towards me. I did not give a black eye to Ribfest or Habitat. It was THEY that gave a black eye to Victoria Park.
I'm the coward, why is that you didnt post my two comments? You want name calling lol, who is the coward? YOU ARE. I am not some wanna be internet tough guy. I asked you some questions, you in turn do not post my questions. YOU are the spineless coward. What about my other posts, or are the questions too damn tough for some idiot that wants to harken back to the days of his youth. Oh yes, thats right, back when the grounds immedately west of the "Crown Jewel" were contaminated from industry. The rail yards, the defunct buildings, the lake, where you took your life into your hands jumping into because of the pollution, yes Mr. Keeler, you are so intelligent and you sir are the coward. Continue being the internet tough guy. All mouth. No brains. the extra numbers are for the posts YOU wont post.
You are a bare-faced liar. I posted all of your comments. I guess when you remain anonymouse you can feel free to post any kind of slander and lie.
You remain a coward, a spineless jellyfish. I answered your questions and they can be seen in the comment thread, however, it is obvious that you refrain to answer mine.
Your unsubstantiated assertion of gps-ing the pier and park provides nothing by an anonymous nobody. I backed up my assertions with timely photographs. They may be imperfect, but I owned them, in contrast to your spineless boasting. I present my assertions to the public with transparency, whereas you hide behind anonymity and slander.
The stupid anonymous coward asserted, "I vote anonymously,"
That is not true. Go ahead and walk into a polling station voting booth and vote anonymously, then go to another polliong station booth and do it again. You do not vote anonymously. You need to provide proof of your registered name before you can go into the booth. Inside the actual booth you check off the ballot without attaching your name to the ballot.
You are a spineless coward -- very simple. My name is everywhere I post my comments on this blog and other people's blogs. I am up front. I have the integrity and transparency to own my comments. You do not. The contrast of your cowardness and my courage couldn't be more glaring.
You cannot publish a letter to the editor in the local newspapers without your name. It is MY blog, and you are being published here at MY privilege. Since you are a liar, the privilege has been withdrawn from you.
Get the message: Go fuck yourself.
We are not voting on your site Mr. Keeler. We express ourselves; yes with a card of free speech which has something to say. Your hostility will make it easier to wear an incognito cape and will develop a great number of quidams.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN !
I don't respond to cowards who don't have the integrity to own their remarks.
I find this whole thing to be funny as hell. Mr. Keeler, questions have been asked. Frankly you should answer the one about who is going to pay for these little extras or "challenges". I did some checking Mr. Keeler, and yes a GPS with the mentioned software does exactly as "Forsaken" states. No, I have not actually done the area comparison.
I would definitely like to know what your response to the question about who gets to pay for the extras.
Anonymous coward wrote: "Your only question to me thus far, has been who I am. That sir is obvious, your nemesis."
I guess I must have really hurt you. Nemesis eh? Taken to stalking? I didn't know I was that important to you.
Regardless of your pseudo or anonymous posturing, I understand why you avoid transparency, why you are too cowardly to own your innuendos of racism but decline to provide the example, why you boast of your gps but refuse to provide the square footage difference.
If I were working for Metroland Publishing, I'd also hide my identity -- coward. Wow, talk about a total lack of integrity.
Hey, big brave anonymous, why don't you write a letter to the editor about my contentions? Oh, yes, the newspapers don't permit anonymous letters for very good reasons, as you well know. So, when you come onto this publishing forum, you can betray your profession and spew bullshit.
Concerning you, I will implement the policy of your employer and decline to post your anonymous slanders.
A cowardly anonymous prick wrote, "I do believe it was said by someone else, I will repeat it for you, “Grass grows back”.
"Black eyes also get their colour back," said the thug to their victim.
My "NEMESIS" said the coward anonymous posting from Metroland Publishing. Here is the proof. I back up my claims, whereas the petty asshole continues to decline to answer my questions. Now there is someone who doesn't believe in integrity nor transparency. See it here: http://cobourgtown.blogspot.com/2010/10/my-nemesis-from-metroland-publishing.html
Who is stalking who? Seems your the one doing the stalking Wally. This person really must have gotten under your skin to go to the trouble of doing an IP track.
Anonymous Coward keyed, "to go to the trouble of doing an IP track."
Two mouse clicks, poof, it's there. No effort whatsoever.
You're one and the same. Coward. What is it that has you so scared to take ownership of your words. You don't believe in transparency in the public domain do you?
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